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    【ガンダムSEED】お前らはデカい剣持ってるMSは好き?



    1: 無念 2019/09/21 20:44:23 No.671074739 ▼このレスに返信

    種からMSにデカい剣が若者ウケが良いと分かったらしいがデカい剣好き?
    2: 無念 2019/09/21 20:46:03 No.671075275 ▼このレスに返信
    バランスがだいじ
    4: 無念 2019/09/21 20:48:04 No.671075947 ▼このレスに返信
    ソードインパルスはかっこいいね
    6: 無念 2019/09/21 20:50:08 No.671076629 ▼このレスに返信
    MSの武装として剣は好きだけど
    種の中途半端な感じの剣はそんなに好きじゃないな
    8: 無念 2019/09/21 20:51:22 No.671077050 ▼このレスに返信
    斬馬刀
    9: 無念 2019/09/21 20:53:15 No.671077666 ▼このレスに返信
    細いビームサーベルって割とポーズ決めるの難しかったからでかいのはよかった
    10: 無念 2019/09/21 20:53:40 No.671077794 ▼このレスに返信
    ビームサーベルのほうが運用しやすいだろう
    13: 無念 2019/09/21 20:54:57 No.671078187 ▼このレスに返信
    >ビームサーベルのほうが運用しやすいだろう
    少なくとも持ち運びには便利だな
    11: 無念 2019/09/21 20:53:49 No.671077835 ▼このレスに返信

    実体剣よりぶっといハイパービームサーベルが好きなの
    39: 無念 2019/09/21 21:09:58 No.671083084 ▼このレスに返信
    >実体剣よりぶっといハイパービームサーベルが好きなの
    これとやり合うハマーン頭おかしいな
    14: 無念 2019/09/21 20:55:54 No.671078459 ▼このレスに返信

    >実体剣からぶっといハイパービームサーベルが出るのが最善
    61: 無念 2019/09/21 21:39:36 No.671093087 ▼このレスに返信
    >No.671078459
    これってダブルオー?のなんて武装?
    62: 無念 2019/09/21 21:40:03 No.671093249 ▼このレスに返信
    >これってダブルオー?のなんて武装?
    GNソードIII
    68: 無念 2019/09/21 21:46:53 No.671095756 ▼このレスに返信
    >GNソードIII
    サンクス
    IIIってこんな使い方できたんだ
    19: 無念 2019/09/21 20:57:59 No.671079137 ▼このレスに返信
    片手剣と盾派です
    20: 無念 2019/09/21 20:58:07 No.671079180 ▼このレスに返信
    種対艦刀は実剣部分は水中で使えるメリットがある
    初代でちゃんと水中で運用してるとこが考えてるな、って思った
    25: 無念 2019/09/21 21:01:18 No.671080213 ▼このレスに返信
    >種対艦刀は実剣部分は水中で使えるメリットがある
    >初代でちゃんと水中で運用してるとこが考えてるな、って思った
    実体剣で叩き切るというか尖ったところを関節部にぶっさすかんじ
    21: 無念 2019/09/21 20:58:50 No.671079394 ▼このレスに返信
    サンドロックもショーテルなんてやめて大剣を持てば大人気だった…?
    24: 無念 2019/09/21 21:00:37 No.671079975 ▼このレスに返信

    >サンドロックもショーテルなんてやめて大剣を持てば大人気だった…?
    EW版は大剣と言えるけどやっぱ曲がってると駄目だな
    22: 無念 2019/09/21 20:59:14 No.671079530 ▼このレスに返信

    シャイニングフィンガーソード
    27: 無念 2019/09/21 21:01:54 No.671080396 ▼このレスに返信
    ビームじゃなくて刀身があるほうが振り回すときに重量感があっていい
    29: 無念 2019/09/21 21:02:28 No.671080585 ▼このレスに返信
    種のアロンダイトとかビームで溶かして実体剣部分で叩き切るって感じなんだろうけど
    なぜか実体剣部分でヒットストップかかんないのかな…って思っちゃう
    37: 無念 2019/09/21 21:08:19 No.671082534 ▼このレスに返信
    >種のアロンダイトとかビームで溶かして実体剣部分で叩き切るって感じなんだろうけど
    >なぜか実体剣部分でヒットストップかかんないのかな…って思っちゃう
    まぁヒートソードをもうちょっと現実的に可能そうな雰囲気に落とし込んだ剣と言えよう
    だからちょっと弱そうでも仕方ない
    30: 無念 2019/09/21 21:03:05 No.671080812 ▼このレスに返信
    ショーテルって盾を避けて攻撃する為の形状らしいけど
    そもそもガンダムシリーズの剣って大体盾じゃ防げないよな
    31: 無念 2019/09/21 21:03:08 No.671080839 ▼このレスに返信

    オッサンは大斧が好き説
    33: 無念 2019/09/21 21:04:54 No.671081408 ▼このレスに返信
    >オッサンは大斧が好き説
    バーニア点火からサラミスを縦に無理矢理ぶった切るの好き
    32: 無念 2019/09/21 21:03:59 No.671081123 ▼このレスに返信

    デカい剣と聞いて
    34: 無念 2019/09/21 21:05:43 No.671081669 ▼このレスに返信
    シュベルトゲベールは見た目は派手だけどビーム部分がぶっとい訳でもなく先端にちょろっと実体刃ついてるだけで利点なんなの?って感じがした
    エクスカリバーはちゃんと両刃になってたけど
    アロンダイトでは元に戻ってたけど
    42: 無念 2019/09/21 21:10:50 No.671083356 ▼このレスに返信
    >シュベルトゲベールは見た目は派手だけどビーム部分がぶっとい訳でもなく先端にちょろっと実体刃ついてるだけで利点なんなの?って感じがした
    柱がある分余計なビーム形成にエネルギーを使わなくてよくて結果高出力なビーム刃が出せる・・・とか考えてみた
    44: 無念 2019/09/21 21:11:41 No.671083639 ▼このレスに返信
    >シュベルトゲベールは見た目は派手だけどビーム部分がぶっとい訳でもなく先端にちょろっと実体刃ついてるだけで利点なんなの?って感じがした
    >エクスカリバーはちゃんと両刃になってたけど
    >アロンダイトでは元に戻ってたけど
    戦艦が舵を切ったとかで姿勢を保つ為に実体刃部分を甲板に突き立てるシーンとかあれば良かったよね
    36: 無念 2019/09/21 21:07:02 No.671082108 ▼このレスに返信
    ホビージャパンの付録プラモといえばいつも大剣だった印象がある
    38: 無念 2019/09/21 21:08:27 No.671082571 ▼このレスに返信
    重そうな大剣で剣の高速連続攻撃をいなすとかだと熱い
    43: 無念 2019/09/21 21:11:06 No.671083442 ▼このレスに返信

    耐ビーム処理のおかげでビームシールド貫通できる剣
    47: 無念 2019/09/21 21:22:50 No.671087213 ▼このレスに返信
    勇者パースは浪漫
    45: 無念 2019/09/21 21:18:45 No.671085858 ▼このレスに返信
    ビーム部分が強いので取り回しの悪さからMS戦では不向きな感じが
    対艦ならなんでもok
    48: 無念 2019/09/21 21:28:18 No.671089073 ▼このレスに返信

    >対艦ならなんでもok
    対MAほうが大きさ的にちょうど良いと思う
    49: 無念 2019/09/21 21:28:53 No.671089285 ▼このレスに返信
    ロボにでかい剣なら昔からあるで
    MSに剣は宇宙世紀の世界観だと合わないからな
    64: 無念 2019/09/21 21:42:19 No.671094098 ▼このレスに返信
    >MSに剣は宇宙世紀の世界観だと合わないからな
    ていうか
    所謂スーパーロボットならともかく
    戦争の兵器的ロボットが銃砲飛び交う中大剣かついでドタドタ走り回る光景って正直滑稽じゃね?
    種系は基本PS装甲で実弾じゃ抜けないからって言い訳してるけど
    マシンガンなどで武装してるMSが対艦刀みたいなブツで馬鹿正直に斬られてる様はかなり間抜けだと思うんだが
    71: 無念 2019/09/21 21:50:52 No.671097263 ▼このレスに返信
    >ていうか
    >所謂スーパーロボットならともかく
    >戦争の兵器的ロボットが銃砲飛び交う中大剣かついでドタドタ走り回る光景って正直滑稽じゃね?
    >種系は基本PS装甲で実弾じゃ抜けないからって言い訳してるけど
    >マシンガンなどで武装してるMSが対艦刀みたいなブツで馬鹿正直に斬られてる様はかなり間抜けだと思うんだが
    やっぱりビームナイフだよね
    86: 無念 2019/09/21 22:06:52 No.671102965 ▼このレスに返信

    >マシンガンなどで武装してるMSが対艦刀みたいなブツで馬鹿正直に斬られてる様はかなり間抜けだと思うんだが
    ハンマーなのでセーフ!
    91: 無念 2019/09/21 22:22:01 No.671108105 ▼このレスに返信
    >戦争の兵器的ロボットが銃砲飛び交う中大剣かついでドタドタ走り回る光景って正直滑稽じゃね?
    MSがすでに兵器的じゃないだろ
    101: 無念 2019/09/21 22:34:48 No.671112295 ▼このレスに返信
    >MSがすでに兵器的じゃないだろ
    「戦争に使う兵器」という設定で存在してるものを「兵器的じゃない」と否定したってしょうがないだろ
    129: 無念 2019/09/21 23:05:14 No.671122028 ▼このレスに返信
    MSが銃撃より強いからありえる光景なんだよね
    逆に本来の使い方としての対艦刀は必要なさそうだけど
    56: 無念 2019/09/21 21:35:23 No.671091547 ▼このレスに返信
    種は設定のせいで見た目カッコいい実体部分+ビーム刃が普通のビームサーベルで切られて負けるのが悲しい
    72: 無念 2019/09/21 21:51:50 No.671097613 ▼このレスに返信
    >種は設定のせいで見た目カッコいい実体部分+ビーム刃が普通のビームサーベルで切られて負けるのが悲しい
    種死最終回のそれのせいで益々微妙武器感が強くなってしまった…
    92: 無念 2019/09/21 22:23:05 No.671108475 ▼このレスに返信
    ハッタリ気いてて種の武装がガンダムで一番カッコイイ
    93: 無念 2019/09/21 22:25:50 No.671109362 ▼このレスに返信
    SEEDはデザインと音楽は最高だよね
    94: 無念 2019/09/21 22:26:33 No.671109607 ▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムに対艦刀って言うセンスは最高だと思う
    119: 無念 2019/09/21 23:00:38 No.671120492 ▼このレスに返信

    大型ヒートサーベルも大好きです
    120: 無念 2019/09/21 23:01:06 No.671120644 ▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
    125: 無念 2019/09/21 23:02:29 No.671121082 ▼このレスに返信
    対艦刀大振りバッサリ良くのカッコイイ
    使いかたまちがっとるけど

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 18:05:51 ID:a08e6db00            ★コメ返信★

        ハシュマル戦の大剣ぶん回しバルバトスはカッコ良かった

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 18:07:59 ID:0a5e43779            ★コメ返信★

        菊一文字シカトされててかわいそう

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 18:21:28 ID:ea31572ba            ★コメ返信★

        ザガンダムっての初めて見たけど肘が曲がらない?手首辺りに肘関節っぽいのがあっておかしい

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 18:36:58 ID:40a5a1420            ★コメ返信★

        レーザーで溶かす

        刀身で裂く
        理屈は現実的だけど理屈詰めるとレクイエムでいいなってなっちゃう

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 19:06:36 ID:3d1a2e808            ★コメ返信★

        使うMSの全長くらいまでなら実体剣が好き
        ソードインパルスは片方がそれくらいなので好き

        大き過ぎたり変形する実体剣はアウト
        Gガンみたいな明らかにスーパーロボットな世界観でないと似合わない
        宇宙世紀に勇者ロボが登場したら浮くようなもん
        だから全長の二倍超えるようならビームの方が好き

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 19:19:05 ID:8637d3c93            ★コメ返信★

        種だと戦艦の装甲がビーム耐性の高いラミネート装甲が主流で
        遠距離からビームで撃ち抜くのが難しいから実体剣で切り裂くのは理に適ってる

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 20:06:34 ID:01489028d            ★コメ返信★

        アロンダイトみたいな対艦刀は加害範囲が広いから、当時増えていた連合の大型MA相手なら最適なんだろうけどな…

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 20:16:08 ID:bff1beaf8            ★コメ返信★

        ドムグロウスバイルがいたので安心して寝られる
        ありがとう

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 20:34:43 ID:89e196f42            ★コメ返信★

        大きな剣あるとMSの存在意義があって好き

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 20:40:44 ID:4ba79e30e            ★コメ返信★

        エクスカリバーは種死第一話の登場シーンで惚れた。
        でもガンプラだと長すぎて持て余す感じ。アロンダイトも含めて関節に優しくないのが辛い。
        タクティカルアームズまでいっちゃうとやりすぎ太すぎ。台座必須は嫌い。
        取り回しでいったらエクシアのGNソードぐらいの大きさで片手で成立する方が好み。

        ビームサーベルは正直代わり映えしなくて飽きていたので、鉄血で実体刃、鈍器を推してきたのは歓迎。主人公機がメイン武器メイスとは思わなんだ。

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/23(Mon) 20:50:01 ID:713f3517b            ★コメ返信★

        ソードインパルスがエクスカリバーをクルクル回してからサンライズパースやるのはっきり言って意味ないし無駄だけどかっこいいからいいのだ

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/24(Tue) 00:20:00 ID:9db3b53ab            ★コメ返信★

        ビムサベで無い限り、ただの「デッド・ウェイト」にしかならん。
        だいたい振り回してるあいだに、2・3発射撃くらうぞ。
        嘘だとおもったら、「日本刀2本かかえて、アサルトライフル構えてるテロリスト」に切り込んでこい。2歩も行かないうちに蜂の巣になるわw

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/24(Tue) 07:54:17 ID:d1b03c5fc            ★コメ返信★

        真っ直ぐに振ると
        実体刀はビームをも斬れるからへーき

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/24(Tue) 12:28:03 ID:de434848f            ★コメ返信★

        まぁアニメなんでエースは銃弾かわしたり弾いたり高速で懐潜り込んですけどね。現実なら〜とか言われても困る。

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/24(Tue) 12:49:14 ID:7e0197a5f            ★コメ返信★

        Ζ「スイカバーはダメですか?」

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/24(Tue) 20:10:10 ID:dea14bfd0            ★コメ返信★

        スカイグラスパー……….

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/09/26(Thu) 15:10:31 ID:b6be012ca            ★コメ返信★

        嘘科学だからこそ、実体剣とビームで違いが重要
        実体はバランスとか悪いけど質量の利点、ビームは燃費問題あるけど使い勝手が良いとか

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/09(Fri) 15:40:28 ID:131381789            ★コメ返信★

        種は防御側がビームに対して固すぎるのも忘れちゃいけないと思う。実弾等の物理攻撃にはPS装甲以外ないけど、ビーム兵器対策は冗談みたいに有効なのが多いからね?例えば、他ならサーベルで盾ごと殺れるんだけど、種の盾をサーベルでぶち抜くって無理ゲーに近い。
        対して、シュベルトゲベールの時点でストライクダガーを盾ごとバッサリやってたり、ブメで表面削れてるとはいえエクスカリバーで盾貫通してるってことを考えると実体剣は種世界のクソ固防御をぶち抜ける時点でサーベルの相互互換としては十分有能。この辺はサーベルじゃあ無理なんだわ?

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