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    【ガンダム】このマシンガン20発だけなんですか…？



    1: 2019/10/10 18:51:58 No.629408873 ▼このレスに返信

    劇中だとドバドバ撃ってた記憶あるけど20発しか弾ないのか…
    3: 2019/10/10 18:54:30 No.629409499 ▼このレスに返信
    意外とビームライフルも十数発しか撃てなかったりする
    19: 2019/10/10 19:10:58 No.629413915 ▼このレスに返信
    >意外とビームライフルも十数発しか撃てなかったりする
    ファーストの初期の頃はしょっちゅう弾切れしてたけど
    弾切れの描写自体が無くなったな
    5: 2019/10/10 18:56:27 No.629410023 ▼このレスに返信
    正直宇宙で高速移動する20m程度のロボット撃ち落とそうとしたら弾数足りなすぎると思う
    9: 2019/10/10 19:00:24 No.629411045 ▼このレスに返信
    点の攻撃がまず無茶だからな…
    6: 2019/10/10 18:57:19 No.629410233 ▼このレスに返信
    ザクマシンガンも装弾数少ないのかな
    連邦がこれだと
    16: 2019/10/10 19:08:08 No.629413099 ▼このレスに返信
    >ザクマシンガンも装弾数少ないのかな
    100って話
    8: 2019/10/10 18:58:56 No.629410686 ▼このレスに返信
    20発でもしゃあないかという部分と
    明らかにダメだろ！って部分とが戦っている
    11: 2019/10/10 19:01:54 No.629411404 ▼このレスに返信
    弾のサイズを考えるとまあしょうがないかって部分と
    いや劇中映像だとそれ一瞬で使い切ってるだろというツッコミが
    13: 2019/10/10 19:04:28 No.629412067 ▼このレスに返信
    リアルの戦車があのサイズで40発くらいしか携行してないからな120ミリ弾
    そう考えるとそうなるな…って
    14: 2019/10/10 19:06:18 No.629412575 ▼このレスに返信
    こんなに弾数少ないなら
    相当近くに寄ってからじゃないと撃てないな
    遠くから撃っても無駄撃ちになるだけだし
    15: 2019/10/10 19:07:38 No.629412960 ▼このレスに返信
    使い切ったらマシンガンをパージしてサーベルぶんぶんしよう
    17: 2019/10/10 19:09:10 No.629413394 ▼このレスに返信
    戦車の砲弾と共用なのか
    20: 2019/10/10 19:11:12 No.629413987 ▼このレスに返信
    90mmだと対空砲じゃない？
    26: 2019/10/10 19:15:19 No.629415082 ▼このレスに返信
    連邦の戦術的に敵の数や稼働時間を考えるとそこまで弾は必要でもないのかも知れない
    35: 2019/10/10 19:31:29 No.629419437 ▼このレスに返信
    ビーム・マグナムの１５発でも心もとないな…って思ってたけどジムマシンガンが２０発か…
    41: 2019/10/10 19:34:42 No.629420377 ▼このレスに返信
    >ビーム・マグナムの１５発でも心もとないな…って思ってたけどジムマシンガンが２０発か…
    初代おっちゃんのが１５発しかないからバズ２丁もちは正解だよなあ
    38: 2019/10/10 19:32:59 No.629419891 ▼このレスに返信
    00のティエレンを見ろ！20㎝砲をハンドガンでも撃つみたいにﾍﾟｺﾍﾟｺ乱射しているぞ！
    40: 2019/10/10 19:34:16 No.629420258 ▼このレスに返信
    作画とかの都合なんだろうけど予備のマガジン無しでバズーカしか持ってない機体ってすごいよな数回撃ったらもう弾切れって怖すぎ
    46: 2019/10/10 19:38:04 No.629421312 ▼このレスに返信
    >作画とかの都合なんだろうけど予備のマガジン無しでバズーカしか持ってない機体ってすごいよな数回撃ったらもう弾切れって怖すぎ
    まぁでも現実の戦闘機でも対艦攻撃する機体とかは対艦ミサイル何発かと機銃しかないしMSもそんなもんなんじゃないか
    44: 2019/10/10 19:37:49 No.629421245 ▼このレスに返信
    キャノン系の連中の弾がどこに入ってるかも割と謎
    すぐ弾切れしそうな気がする
    47: 2019/10/10 19:38:26 No.629421414 ▼このレスに返信
    ドムもバズーカ片手に突進してくけど５発撃ったら敵のど真ん中でサーベルだけになるのか…
    55: 2019/10/10 19:42:14 No.629422535 ▼このレスに返信
    現代の戦闘機ならミサイルは100km先まで誘導してくれるけど
    ザクで戦艦潰そうと思ったら宇宙空間だからすげぇ遠くまでカメラで照準できる機銃群の中に
    無誘導のロケット弾5発で突っ込んで対空砲潰してヒートホークぶちこめってんでしょ
    つれぇわ
    56: 2019/10/10 19:43:53 No.629423030 ▼このレスに返信
    >つれぇわ
    その頃の相手は対ミノフスキー戦術が満足に出来てなくて全然対空砲当たらないから大丈夫
    行け
    60: 2019/10/10 19:45:28 No.629423541 ▼このレスに返信
    宇宙間戦闘ならMSは下からも回り込める機動兵器だから大丈夫だ
    行け
    58: 2019/10/10 19:44:30 No.629423231 ▼このレスに返信
    冷静に考えると頭部バルカンとか連射できるほど弾詰めないだろってなるしこういうのは深く考えたら負けだ

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      1. 1. 名前:雑魚Ａ 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 12:28:29 ID：053a9eb21            ★コメ返信★

        旧式のゲルググ如き、一発で充分だ。
        byバニング

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 13:47:40 ID：e88b9e5b0            ★コメ返信★

        >意外とビームライフルも十数発しか撃てなかったりする　

        ならビームライフルの方が良くね？

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 14:11:04 ID：00a7efb62            ★コメ返信★

        ベトナム戦争時の米軍のM16A1が、20発マガジンだったしな

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 14:49:29 ID：caf828df7            ★コメ返信★

        レズン「対空砲って当たらないと思うじゃん？」

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 15:12:17 ID：d057f16bb            ★コメ返信★

        交換用カードリッジを複数携行するならそんな困らないだろうし
        長距離侵攻戦でもない限りは母艦や基地や前線補給廠に帰投して補給すればいい

        90mmって61式戦車の主砲と口径が違うけどどの戦闘車両の砲なんだ？
        未だ画面に映ってない90mm砲AFVでもいるのかね

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 16:42:19 ID：dd8ad824e            ★コメ返信★

        強なら3発、弱でも7発しか撃てないMk-Ⅱのライフルもなかなか…。
        バルカンばかり使っちゃいそう。

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 17:01:11 ID：480ab7f58            ★コメ返信★

        人間様の使うアサルトライフルも、この手のマガジン形状のタイプは装弾数20発とか良くて30発ちょい

        ザクマシはドラム型だから多く撃てるよって話なんだろうが、「それ重すぎませんかね・・」ってツッコミ所が出てくる

        あんま気にしてもしゃーないよな

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 18:20:33 ID：d1e2e9af0            ★コメ返信★

        現代の戦闘機が「なんで秒間数千発のバルカン砲」積んでるか考えるべきだよな。
        それくらいバラ撒いても、３次元機動してる敵には当たらないってことよ。
        いわんや、２０発のマシンガンとか十数発のビームライフルなんて
        「対艦攻撃用」くらいにしか使えんぞ？

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 18:27:19 ID：d2884f182            ★コメ返信★

        アサルトライフルは基本的に単射だし
        このご時世にブルパップライフル使うのは特殊部隊くらい(英国に目を背けつつ)だから
        1戦闘に20発で足りるんだけど…
        これマシンガンだよね？

        反応:※12
      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 18:45:44 ID：f640abc5d            ★コメ返信★

        大丈夫だ
        行け
        が面白すぎるｗ
        でも、ザクの運用はだいたいそうだよねｗ

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/11(Fri) 19:01:40 ID：416de5e18            ★コメ返信★

        歩兵が携行する無反動砲やロケットランチャーなら装填1発で
        重すぎるから予備も数発しかないんから、
        もっと心もとない気がするが当てても外してもバックブラスト発生して攻撃されて2階級特進だから大して意味がない。

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/12(Sat) 00:20:18 ID：a2b3d2db2            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムに限らず、アニメのガンアクションで装弾数と発射速度考えてる事はまずないから
        「そういうもの」と思うしかないよなぁ

        ※9
        なお英軍特殊部隊のアサルトライフルは自国製じゃなくAR15系…
        もっとも英軍のL85だけじゃなくタボールやAUGが各国軍で今も現役なので
        ブルパップは過去の遺物ではないぞ

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/12(Sat) 02:10:15 ID：8db2f5352            ★コメ返信★

        人間同士なら何百人と地べたに伏せてだらだら撃ち合って一人殺すのに1万発の世界だから一弾倉2，30発でも別にいいけど、戦闘機も真っ青の運動性能でレーダー無しの宇宙戦闘とかやる兵器がこの程度の装弾数だとどう考えてもお互いかすりもしないよね

        反応:※14
      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/12(Sat) 21:21:19 ID：fdf4ef0da            ★コメ返信★

        ※13
        本来はかすりもしない弾幕の中をおっかなびっくり進んでいく雑兵と、ガンガン進んで接敵して雑兵を蹴散らしていくエースと、避けて当てる化け物とが混在する戦場なんじゃないかな
        現実の空戦でも基本的に機銃弾は当てられないっていうし

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2019/10/13(Sun) 11:06:00 ID：8d930dfc6            ★コメ返信★

        実は散弾とか、弾速が物凄くて並みのMSなら当たらなくても衝撃波で損傷するとか

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/02/08(Sat) 19:07:11 ID：327152cae            ★コメ返信★

        その点ビーム兵器ってすげえよな
        いっぱい撃ってもジェネレーターがスゲーからで説明がつく

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/04/13(Mon) 12:20:02 ID：f531c7709            ★コメ返信★

        セガサターンのブルーディスティニーでセミオートみたいな撃ち方しか出来なかったけど、20発なら納得。

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/01(Thu) 14:30:24 ID：8a7c07491            ★コメ返信★

        実銃のアサルトライフルの装弾数を知らない一般人は20発が少ないと言うのはいつもの事だな··········
        洋画でマグチェンジ無しで数百発撃ってるのが普通だと思ってるの地味にウケる

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/01/05(Tue) 01:03:25 ID：de50db7a6            ★コメ返信★

        頭部バルカンの方が弾入ってそう

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